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MartinR
Member Since: 27 Jan 2008
Location: Oxon
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Since I couldn't find a conclusive answer anywhere, here's what I ended up with in case someone else can benefit.
For Thule bars, you need 3027 feet and 753 fixpoints (see http://www.thule.co.uk/appguide/). They then recommend 769 bars, which are 127cm. However, mk1 eyeball in the Halfords car park suggested the 135cm bars wouldn't be too far off, and they're not - nothing that extending the slot by a centimetre didn't fix... NB the tracks are further apart at the front than at the back - you only need to grind one bar! (You can guess when I worked that one out...)
OK, now there's plenty of room for the canoe, what about the kayaks? There's not enough room for normal uprights, so jbars are the answer, e.g. http://www.tw-od.com/ProductView.aspx?Prod...;BrandID=0.
The final requirement seems to be a bit of height: at 6 foot, even in access mode, putting a 40kg canoe on the roof is non-trivial! But here's the end result:
Note that this would have been be a lot easier if I had a D2, Defender or roof rails rather than T-Tracks - then it's easy to fit wide bars!
Martin.
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mick
Member Since: 21 Jan 2007
Location: Yorkshire
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| Sun May 18 2008 11:13pm |
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chesters
Member Since: 03 Oct 2005
Location: The Toon
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I use Atera bars as they are longer, with Thule kayak carriers. Arctic Frost Discovery 3 TDV6 SE, Active Rear Diff, Adaptive Head Lights, Tow Pack, Ebony Leather, Roof Rails, Mantec Guard. Tasmod Stainless Sill plates. Grabber AT's. Home made mud flaps. Side Steps back on until the next time.
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| Mon May 19 2008 4:35pm |
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nosweat
Member Since: 14 Nov 2007
Location: Devon,UK
Posts: 72
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While we're on kayaks and racks, anyone got any experience of these racks?
http://www.kari-tek.co.uk/ELRRIntroMulti.html
Considering it as an easy option for getting the bigger boats onto the top. Would be interested in any comments on use or piccies in situ. Also comments on the fitment onto LR bars as these suggest they are 1.6m wide which is going to be quite long compared to the standard curved LR bars.
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| Mon May 19 2008 5:25pm |
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captain_sugar
Member Since: 05 Sep 2006
Location: Hradec Kralove
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nosweed,
very good find!
I would be very interested in this stuff.
Especially if:
- it fits our d3
- if it can be taken of to be left in the garage very quickly with the roof bars staying on the car.
Who will be the test ginea pig? Some people get by
With a little understanding
Some people get by
With a whole lot more
I donīt know
Why you gotta be so undemanding
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| Mon May 19 2008 10:05pm |
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captain_sugar
Member Since: 05 Sep 2006
Location: Hradec Kralove
Posts: 1044
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captain_sugar wrote:nosweed,
very good find!
I would be very interested in this stuff.
getting the boat on the roof isn't such a problem (I only mount two boats - Once I put a raft between the boats but that one has been sold) but strapping the boats ould be easier.
I would be very interested, especially if:
- it fits our d3
- if it can be taken of to be left in the garage very quickly with the roof bars staying on the car.
Who will be the test ginea pig?
Some people get by
With a little understanding
Some people get by
With a whole lot more
I donīt know
Why you gotta be so undemanding
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| Mon May 19 2008 10:08pm |
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captain_sugar
Member Since: 05 Sep 2006
Location: Hradec Kralove
Posts: 1044
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sorry for quoting myself .... 
pushed the qoute button instead of the edit.... Some people get by
With a little understanding
Some people get by
With a whole lot more
I donīt know
Why you gotta be so undemanding
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| Mon May 19 2008 10:10pm |
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eddtheduck
Member Since: 14 Mar 2006
Location: Norwich
Posts: 164
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Anyone put a biggish dinghy like a laser pico on the roof?
The boat is quite heavy at 60Kg and the launching trolley is a further 22Kg (though I would probably leave this at home). I have a pretty good trailer but for a longish trip away I'd prefer the freedom of not dragging all the time. 2008.5 D3 HSE, Stornoway, Ebony
2007 BMW 335iSE - lust for speed satisfied
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MacLeod 313
Member Since: 18 Apr 2008
Location: away
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just thought i would add a comment, I purchased a LANDROVER canoe rack from DUCKWORTH, firstly dont use them, awful company, and two, great item.
Obviously it fits onto original bars, comes as 2 individual adjustable v shaped brackets, with 2 paddle brackets, should be able to use two either side if needed.
Great item, why buy aftermarket items!!!!!!!!
JUST DON'T USE DUCKWORTHS : 
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| Tue Jul 01 2008 6:58pm |
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captain_sugar
Member Since: 05 Sep 2006
Location: Hradec Kralove
Posts: 1044
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jcbdigger1970 wrote:Great item, why buy aftermarket items!!!!!!!!
Because mostly the aftermarket is the same as the original...
The "LR original" is a re-branded "aftermarket".
And the aftermarket ( in fact the real original) is much cheaper than the LR adoption.
What you bought is probably this:
http://www.atera.co.uk/atindex.html
Have lots of paddling fun! Some people get by
With a little understanding
Some people get by
With a whole lot more
I donīt know
Why you gotta be so undemanding
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MacLeod 313
Member Since: 18 Apr 2008
Location: away
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Nope, its nowt like that, LR is much more sturdy in design and fully adjustable. You can fit the canoe on its edge, or flat, just adjust the v brackets.
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Ajolious
Member Since: 01 Aug 2006
Location: Plymouth
Posts: 109
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I use the standard LR bars. There is a knack to getting her up there, but once up she balances on the cross members. I use the front towing point to secure the bow lanyard and my towbar loop for the rear. 2 ratchet straps finish it all off. No worries! Pictures in my gallery. AJ
Work to live don't live to work
07MY TDV6 SE Auto plus a few toys
Specialized Stumpjumper FSR Expert
17' of red Coleman plastic.. paddles not essential
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hotrocks
Member Since: 05 Jan 2010
Location: England
Posts: 234
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I run a BCU canoeing centre and often have to go to the local swimming pool to run sessions, 8 kids + 1 instructor = no problem for the Disco 3!
We get 4 on the standard LR roof bars by 'top n tailing' them two by two next to each other and then bung 5 short boats in the back with the seats folded down = 9 boats without a trailer + paddles, b/aids and a second instructor in the passenger seat to work pool side... result!
We can't quite do it with the TD5 we have but have managed 7 in the same fashion.
Can anyone beat 9?
Steve
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| Wed Jan 06 2010 10:09pm |
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captain_sugar
Member Since: 05 Sep 2006
Location: Hradec Kralove
Posts: 1044
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hotrocks wrote:
Can anyone beat 9?
Steve
Ask the police, they will have many cases of accidents with more people in the car than allowed. If something serious happens to your disco and to some of the 9 people inside, it would mean big troubles for your company and you as the owner.
Especially because for 9 people, I believe the B driving licence is not enough.
Although the d3 protects the passengers very well, it still remains a risk. Some people get by
With a little understanding
Some people get by
With a whole lot more
I donīt know
Why you gotta be so undemanding
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DiscoStu
Member Since: 09 Apr 2006
Location: Missing Boughrood :(
Posts: 10056
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9 canoes, not 9 people  iDiot Bater
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