7244NE
Member Since: 27 Oct 2010
Location: South Lincolnshire
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| Disco 3 Tow Bar Single Electrics - Advice Required Please |
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Hi All,
I am a newcomer to the site, collecting my 07 Discovery 3 GS Auto next week and I need to fit a removable towbar. I have bought the actual towbar and need to buy the electrics (single) but I have noticed on some ebay listings that some self-installations need a visit to a dealer to re-programme the cars on-board computer to make it compatible for towing.
My question is whether this is essential for single electrics please, or if this is only for twin electrics. Also, do the dealers charge for this service?
I hope you can help me.
Thanks
Neil
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A1GSS
Member Since: 12 Sep 2010
Location: Saffron Walden, Essex
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Fitting is easy if you buy the Land Rover kit.  Did mine in about 90 minutes.
Enabling the car's electronics isn't necessary for the equipment to work; it's plug and play.
What it does is to stop the car automatically adjusting suspension height when you've got your caravan connected and tipping it over...
EDIT: for typos Graham
Formerly known as Antoniasdad
TDV6 Discovery 3 XS in Stornoway Grey / Alpaca
GONE: TDV8 FFRR Vogue in Stornoway Grey / Jet
Last edited by A1GSS on Wed Oct 27 2010 8:07am. Edited 1 time in total
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Albourneboy
Member Since: 23 Feb 2006
Location: An old Victorian town in the NE
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Fitting the electrics is a doddle but I'd stay away from the ebay offerings if I were you and get a genuine LR 13-pin kit from The Large One.
If your car's never had a towing electrics fitted, you only need to have the car 'reprogrammed' to ensure the suspension height change is disabled when a trailer is connected. The dealer can do this or, contact someone like Wiggs who has FaultMate and who can also reprogram your car (and do it for a lot les than the dealer will charge  ) 
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| Wed Oct 27 2010 8:03am |
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7244NE
Member Since: 27 Oct 2010
Location: South Lincolnshire
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I'll definitely stick with genuine LR kit. To clarify, if I do not have this done at the dealer, will the suspension not know when I am towing?
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| Wed Oct 27 2010 8:13am |
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A1GSS
Member Since: 12 Sep 2010
Location: Saffron Walden, Essex
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It's only an issue if you plan to tow off tarmac and use Terrain Response. Normal road use is all good. Graham
Formerly known as Antoniasdad
TDV6 Discovery 3 XS in Stornoway Grey / Alpaca
GONE: TDV8 FFRR Vogue in Stornoway Grey / Jet
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| Wed Oct 27 2010 8:39am |
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DiscoDad
Member Since: 06 Nov 2006
Location: Just off the A1 between the M18 & M62
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Programming also disables the rear parking sensors (if fitted) when a trailer is connected.
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| Wed Oct 27 2010 4:07pm |
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PaulP
Member Since: 04 May 2007
Location: Barcelona
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DD - actually I think this usually depends on the Land Rover Model Year Voodoo factor.....
I know quite a few people who have installed the tow-pack electrics and the rear PDC sensors have automatically disabled upon plugging in a trailer without having the trailer feature activated. 2006 Discovery 3 TDV6 SE Auto Buckingham Blue
2007 Golf GT DSG
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| Wed Oct 27 2010 4:16pm |
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DiscoDad
Member Since: 06 Nov 2006
Location: Just off the A1 between the M18 & M62
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Ah! Now that is clever!
I never checked this on my D3 as the trailer I had then was so small that it was easier to un-hook it and move it by hand so I never actually reversed it!
On the D4 I had the electrics fitted at the dealer so I assume it was programmed as well.
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| Wed Oct 27 2010 4:21pm |
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7244NE
Member Since: 27 Oct 2010
Location: South Lincolnshire
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Thanks for your posts.
I'll install a genuine LR single electric kit and then report back - it's an 07 plate so I hope it's equipped with the afforementioned parking sensor wizardry!
Regards
Neil
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| Wed Oct 27 2010 9:04pm |
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POINTYED
Member Since: 22 Mar 2008
Location: BURY,LANCS
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hi neil
tbh i found the difference in price between single and double electrics is not that much
fitting is not hard just take your time routing the wires espec around the cars dangley balls 
and if you ever get an oppertunity to pull a caravan your hook up is already there
dunc life is tooooo short.enjoy the moment.dont worry be happy
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| Wed Oct 27 2010 9:52pm |
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A1GSS
Member Since: 12 Sep 2010
Location: Saffron Walden, Essex
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POINTYED wrote:...fitting is not hard ...
Agreed, but read instruction 16 carefully. It's there for a reason... Heheheh  Graham
Formerly known as Antoniasdad
TDV6 Discovery 3 XS in Stornoway Grey / Alpaca
GONE: TDV8 FFRR Vogue in Stornoway Grey / Jet
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Ent
Member Since: 12 Oct 2007
Location: Gt Eccleston
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I've got a set for sale and could enable it once fitted £50 Club Exped trailer
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| Thu Oct 28 2010 12:14am |
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bbyer
Member Since: 25 Dec 2008
Location: Edmonton Alberta
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| Have some jpg's in gallery re hook up for electric brakes. |
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While it primarily relates to the NAS 3, I have posted in my gallery some jpg's and pdf's related to the wiring for the trailer electrics and in particular, the connection of an electric brake controller to an existing factory Land Rover / Ford connector, C2590, located up by the brake pedal.
It may be that the same Ford plug exists in the EU harnesses as well but I do not have an EU wiring diagram, only the NAS LR3 specific wiring diagrams. The jpg below is the adapter cable that inserts between the Ford plug and a Tekonsha brake controller. Other brands have similar adapter cables. This cable is a four conductor NAS cable; I think that an EU cable would have at least five conductors as the Land Rover connector C2590 has five conductors leading to it even on the NAS version, (but the NAS Controller only requires four.)
 2005 LR3 HSE 4.4L V8 petrol; Zambezi Silver; 18" x 10 spoke wheels; underside of glass roof located hidden cellular patch antenna; Traxide Dual Battery install; Air Suspension ECU 35P fuse disconnect; PIAA 2500K Yellow Ion H11 Fog Light bulbs; CounterAct LT-2 Capacitive Corrosion control; LLumar AIR80 Blue clear Infra Red blocking side window film; Liftgate manual release; Schrader Valve "air in" mod to OEM air suspension reservoir tank; Akebono ceramic pads on OEM solid vented discs.
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manichauhan
Member Since: 24 Oct 2010
Location: london
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Just a few pointers to fast path your installation if you decide to install the 13 pin electrics yourself ...
1) The 13 pin socket should be positioned on the bumper with the socket cap opening from the right hand side i.e the land rover sign on the cap will not be horizontal, but vertical. The mounting of the screws then becomes obvious.
2) Make sure you take off the two dummy plug ends from the 4 pin and 6 pin connectors, before you try to connect the wiring loom plugs. The connectors are located on the far left hand top edge of the rear left hand side storage cabin.
3) Remove your spare tyre completely to give you more space to work with.
4) Don't try to feed the wiring loom through the gap between the bumper and the bulky and swivelling stabilizer block. Instead feed the loom across from the front of the block, grab the connectors at the other end as it emerges and them push the loom cables back into the space between the bumper and the stabizer block.
It is virtually impossible to clip in the two clips (the wider clip and the one with the arm) on the wiring loom which are meant to sit behind the stabilizer. Unless you remove the bumper (!!) which is longer task. But you need not do it.
5) Make sure the wiring loom sits behind the exhaust heat shield as it goes up underneath the LHS tail lamp. This will prevent it from getting damaged over from heat exposure.
Hope the above helps.
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bbyer
Member Since: 25 Dec 2008
Location: Edmonton Alberta
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| Heat shield hint is important. |
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manichauhan wrote:5) Make sure the wiring loom sits behind the exhaust heat shield as it goes up underneath the LHS tail lamp. This will prevent it from getting damaged over from heat exposure.
Hope the above helps.
Just a note to say thanks for the tips, in particular the reference to the heat shield. 2005 LR3 HSE 4.4L V8 petrol; Zambezi Silver; 18" x 10 spoke wheels; underside of glass roof located hidden cellular patch antenna; Traxide Dual Battery install; Air Suspension ECU 35P fuse disconnect; PIAA 2500K Yellow Ion H11 Fog Light bulbs; CounterAct LT-2 Capacitive Corrosion control; LLumar AIR80 Blue clear Infra Red blocking side window film; Liftgate manual release; Schrader Valve "air in" mod to OEM air suspension reservoir tank; Akebono ceramic pads on OEM solid vented discs.
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